As When God Overthrew
Amos 4:11

"I have overthrown some of you, As when God [Hebrew, ELOHIM] overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, And you were like a burning stick plucked out of the fire; Yet you haven't returned to me," says Yahweh


World English Bible

This scripture is often cited as proof that Yahweh is more than one person. The claim by some trinitarians is that in some vague manner two persons of their trinitarian philosophy are represented in this scripture. According to one trinitarian: "One must assume that the speaker is the Lord Jesus Christ and that the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah was a judgment of the whole Godhead." It is true that some kind of assumption needs to be made; it is not true that one "must" assume that the speaker is Lord Jesus Christ, etc.

The speaker is directly identified as Yahweh, not Jesus. We have shown elsewhere that on several occasions Bible personages refer to themselves in the third person [not meaning third person of the alleged trinity], even as many orientals sometimes do to this very day. Yahweh is simply identifying himself as the God of Israel who overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. This can be seen from Amos 4:12,13: "Therefore thus will I do to you, Israel; Because I will do this to you, Prepare to meet your God, Israel. For, behold, he who forms the mountains, And creates the wind, And declares to man what is his thought; Who makes the morning darkness, And treads on the high places of the Earth: Yahweh, the God of hosts, is his name." From this we can see that the God who overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah is none other than Yahweh, the God of hosts, the God of Israel.

We need to remember that Amos himself was writing this book in address to Israel. With this in mind, another view presented by some is that Amos is quoting Yahweh indirectly, and refers back to the Pentatech with references to God in the third person. This view is stated by James Coffman:

Some critics make a big thing out of God being referred to in this verse (Amos 4:11) in the third person, whereas, the first person is otherwise prominent throughout; but this is not due to any interpolation, and only signifies that Amos unconsciously reverted to quotations from the Pentateuch in mentioning Sodom and Gomorrah, as any one familiar with the Bible would have done.
==========
Coffman, James Burton. "Commentary on Amos 4". "Coffman Commentaries on the Old and New Testament".
http://www.studylight.org/com/bcc/view.cgi?book=am&chapter=004.
Abilene Christian University Press, Abilene, Texas, USA. 1983-1999.

Still remembering that it is Amos who is delivering the message to Israel, another way of looking at the scripture is that Amos interjected the thought parenthetically. We need to remember that there was no punctuation in the Hebrew. With this thought, the verse could be read as: "I have overthrown some of you," -- (As when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah) -- "And you were like a burning stick plucked out of the fire; Yet you haven't returned to me," says Yahweh.

Regardless, the idea that this offers proof of the trinity depends on accepting belief in the trinity to begin with and then using circular reasoning to say that because one believes this is speaking of the trinity, then this is proof of the trinity. In actuality there is nothing in this scripture that offers any proof of the trinity or plurality of persons in the Almighty God, and it offers no reason for adding to the scriptures a story about three persons in God.

Last Update: May 5, 2004

See Genesis 19:24 explanation
and
Elohim - Does This Word Indicate a Plurality of Persons in a Godhead?

Click Here for more information on trinity refutation


Related Books
The following books are recommended for reference; our recommendation does not mean that we endorse everything presented in the books.


GOD By Paul S.L. Johnson.
CHRIST-SPIRIT-COVENANTS By Paul S.L. Johnson.

















[Click Here for Printable Version of Documents]

[Homepage] [Topics Page Index]
[Bible Hebrew Resource Page] [Biblical Greek Resources]
[The Hebrew-Greek Key Study Bible] [Rotherham's Emphasized Bible]
[Latest News: Global, US, Religious]


Some graphics on this page may have been provided courtesy of
one or more of the following:


[Animation Online]
[AAA Banners - Free banners !!]
[Worry-Free Web Hosting]
[Art For the Web]
[Starbaby Designs]
[fOUR bEES]
[Backgrounds by Marie]
[Windy City Designs]
[AdDesigner.com]
[Creative Connectivity BannerMaker]
[Quickbanner]
[iqAuto 3D Text Generator"]


 


  


Click Here to translate this page and/or other pages into Arabic, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Icelandic,Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Slovenian, Thai, Welsh

Is your computer infected with spyware or scumware? You may have such installed without your knowing it. We have prepared a resource page concerning this growing problem, and what you can do about it.

CLICK HERE
to see our resource page.


PLEASE NOTE!

Our provision of banners and links on this page to various pages at Amazon's site does not mean that we recommend and/or endorse each and every book or item listed on those pages or in the banners. We do not control the content of Amazon banners. Your purchases, if made directly from Amazon via our links, provide referral fees that help pay some of the expenses of this ministry.




Getting the Most From Your New Strong's: A Complete How-to-Use Book
Robert P. Kendall
Paperback


Basics of Biblical Greek Grammar
William D. Mounce
Hardcover


Basics of Biblical Greek: Workbook
William D. Mounce
Paperback

[Rotherham's Emphasized Bible]
[Hebrew/Greek Key Study Bibles]
[Bible Translator's Handbooks]
[Vines Dictionaries]
[Bible Concordances]



Join our mailing list - you will receive updates to our website and information. Click here to find out more about this list and/or to subscribe

Click HERE to view archives of the Restoration Light mailing list


Search the WEB for more information on this topic.


Stay Informed!
Click Here to Save up to 80%!

News Magazines
Other
Restoration Light
Pages

SEARCH THIS SITE

RESTORATION LIGHT INDEX

SCRIPTURE INDEX

NEW BOOK!
The Father and the Son: Is Jesus God?

BIBLE STUDENTS LINKS

CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL
RESOURCE PAGE