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« on: May 16, 2009, 02:39 »

I was trying to register on a forum, and in the registration process, I was asked to give an answer to a question, but was limited to three answers.

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Have you made a decision to follow Christ? (Definition)
Yes, I am a Christian.   No, I am not a Christian.   No I am not, but I am seeking Christ.

The (Definition) link provided gives the following:


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For the purpose of posting as Christian on this board, we believe:

A Christian is a follower of Jesus of Nazareth, referred to as Christ or Messiah. Christians believe Jesus to be the only Son of God, who lived a sinless life. He is eternal, uncreated God, and has always been and will always be God, the creator of the universe. At the end of his earthly life He was crucified, on the third day He rose from the dead, and later ascended into heaven.

Christians further believe that Jesus alone offers salvation, and that it is only possible through and by Him. Apart from Jesus Christ, there is no salvation. Ephesians 2:8-9 states that "It is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God that no one should boast". Humans cannot save themselves through good works, only Jesus can save them. Good works, however, are a result of living according to the Word of God.

Christians identify themselves as monotheistic, believing that there is one God.

If, by checking the block saying that I am a Christian, I would be agreeing to the false definition of Christian as supplied, I would be lying. If I check either of the blocks saying that I am not Christian, that would also be lying. And since the registration requires one to answer the question by one of the answers provided, I could get not complete the registration.

Of course, the Bible no where requires that, for one to be a follower of Jesus, that such person has to add to the scriptures that Jesus is the uncreated God who, in actuality, the scriptures tell us sent Jesus. The scriptures no where declare Jesus to be the creator of the universe.

To believe the second paragraph would, in effect, negate belief in the third paragraph, the paragraph concerning salvation in Christ, for there could be no salvation in Christ if Jesus is his God. Rather than condemning sin the flesh, Jesus would have justified sin in the flesh, for it would have proven that flesh has to be the Supreme Being in order to obey the Supreme Being.

Nor do the scriptures anywhere require that the atoning sacrifice for sin has [to be the Supreme Being. That which was required was one sinless man, as Adam was sinless before his disobedience, and, God provided such a man through the miraculous birth of Jesus. By condemning all of the offspring of Adam in one man, only one uncondemned man was needed to offset what Adam had done. Thus, the man Christ Jesus gave himself as a ransom for all.

What Paul said was to be required for a Christian to believe is that "if you will confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." (Romans 10:9) He said nothing about believing that Jesus is his God who raised Jesus from the dead. Nor is there anything in the Bible that says the part of the faith once delivered to the saints was the belief that Jesus is his God.

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« Reply #1 on: Jun 14, 2009, 08:43 »

That I  have to agree, Protestants and Catholics think that to be a christian you have to believe that Jesus is God himself. I you don't then you are a heretic.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 14, 2009, 11:21 »

The game is always rigged when you are dealing with a Trinitarian.  Its like xpecting to win in Las Vegas.

The easiest way to know if the Trinitarian concept was approved by God is to look at Christendom's History.
1900 years of Trinitarian on Trinitarian bloodshed.  Would God have anything to do with placing his Holy Name and the Name of his Holy Son on that mess.

Jesus gave the answer 2000 years ago: 'By their fruits will you know my Disciples'.

Let them be to stir in their own pot, Christ will call those who have a right heart..

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